Talk:Biljana platno beleše

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Undue weight

Undue weight is afforded to the claim that it is also a Bulgarian song. Koneski (1971, Macedonia) treats it as a Macedonian folk song with emphasis on the language of the song (Macedonian), Haralampije (1973, Serbia) and Hristov (1999, Bulgaria) also treat it as a Macedonian folk song, and Hristov (1999, Bulgaria) localizes its origin to Vardar Macedonia. Arnaudov et al. (1965, Bulgaria) and the "Sbornik" (1894, Bulgaria) are just compilations while the other sources are scholarly. That aside, the "Sbornik" is dated with respect to the other sources. --WavesSaid (talk) 00:04, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note. The only scholarly source only says the song is from Vardar Macedonia (a bit strange that it comes in a book about another part of the region). It does not say it was a "Macedonian-language" song or that it has anything to do with a modern political entity. So, please, refrain from such interpretations. Plus, the book also notes that the song was first mentioned by the Miladinov Brothers, the ones that published a collection of "Bulgarian Folk Songs".--Laveol ^T 20:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing

You all need a lesson in it. If this song is included in a folkloric anthology from Bulgaria, it does not back up the statement "it is considered [whatever] in Bulgaria". They don't even contain any prose for Pete's sake! Refs 1 and 8–10 do not say "it is [anything] in the Republic of Macedonia"; they are written by academics from outside of Macedonia (except for Koneski, 1971) at a time when that republic didn't exist. --WavesSaid (talk) 07:30, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indiscriminately citing every book that contains the keywords "Biljana" and "Bulgaria" is not proper referencing. Peters (2002) does not say it's considered Bulgarian. Buchanan (2006) doesn't even mention the song once! Jingiby, you're advancing your own nationalist POV to the detriment of this article. --WavesSaid (talk) 11:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]